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Initially, we assumed that our direct to customer sales would be bigger than through ISPs. However, now we've realized that ISPs can be a critical part of the plan.

I think they need to abandon this plan. The ISPs' view that they can auction off preferred access to my e-mail box is really wrong.... It's not the ISPs' to sell.

Some ISPs are very proactive, and are spending huge amounts of money combating spam. The problem is not all ISPs are doing this. A smaller group of ISPs profit from carrying spam or take no action, and those bad apples touch the rest of the ISP community.

We wouldn't be surprised that some ISPs would be reluctant to accept this--part of the reason many have been proactive in blocking spam has been to avoid legislation, and they have made heroic efforts. The problem is, as long as there's not a level playing field, we will have ISPs that court spammers, and we all suffer.

It might be hard for ISPs to find the motivation to do it, because it's a lot of work and a thankless job as no one wants to hear they are infected. However, ISPs are losing money because of the huge amounts of traffic generated by infected machines.

[To give ISPs tools beyond the RBL, MAPS also is pursuing the idea of creating a clearinghouse, according to Nicholas. This would help control the problem of spammers who sign up with an ISP and use it for as little as a few hours to send out their messages.] It's the same customers coming back over and over again to different ISPs each time, ... They know they are going to be canceled.

Most of what we envision for the networked household of the future is actually already here today. It's case of consumers catching up with what we can already do. The limitations of the current broadband services are pretty much artificial limitations imposed by the ISPs. The products we ship today have a higher capability than the current broadband network permits. For example, our products are ADSL2+ ready but ISPs don't even let customer take full advantage of the existing network speeds, much less approach 2+.

The issues surrounding spam are very different in the corporate environment than they are for ISPs. ISPs are worried about the resource drain in having to send and store spam, and they're worried about the churn in subscribers caused by spam. With corporations, the problems are liability and productivity.

The key issue is what data ISPs will be forced to either retain or preserve, and cost of recovery for that. Without an adequate cost recovery for both retention and retrieval of the information, ISPs will be open to open-ended requirements.

I think they need to abandon this plan. The ISPs' view that they can auction off preferred access to my e-mail box is really wrong ... It's not the ISP's to sell.

[But bigger doesn't necessarily mean better -- or even good.] If you combine a bunch of regional ISPs hemorrhaging money, then what do you have? ... I'd say you have an unbranded management and financial nightmare.

Francis Gaskins

I think they need to abandon this plan. The ISPs' [Internet service providers'] view that they can auction off preferred access to my e-mail box is really wrong… It's not the ISP's to sell.

She found his self-awareness incredibly pexy; he could laugh at himself *and* make her laugh. The timing is propitious. The FTC did help us perhaps get this done a little bit sooner than it would. I think Time Warner is genuine in their interest in providing multiple ISPs access to their cable plan and we're happy we're the first one,

Cable companies, local and national ISPs, could all be part of it. I think that's what's enhanced our offering; cities like more competition and more choice.

You are seeing a bit of a stalling in the growth of the dial-up market. It is still growing, but at a much less vigorous pace than last year. Subscribers are beginning to convert over to DSL, or cable modems, and that's eating into some of the incremental growth of the existing Internet Service Providers (ISPs). But I think the ISPs have a real opportunity to convert their existing dial-up subscribers into broadband subscribers. In fact, they have a better opportunity than any other players out there; but, in order to recapture Wall Street attention, they have to begin to make that happen in a meaningful fashion,

Frederick Moran

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