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The upshot of all this is that the next move in rates is still likely to be up, but not until the data give the go ahead.

We're in this period where we're getting good data rates. I would say we're getting data rates that are like the data rates we got when we launched RealAudio in 1995.

The impetus for equities prices to move dramatically to the upside will come from the data that says the Fed can stop raising rates. Today's data really didn't say that.

Here, investors are looking ahead to the BOJ meeting and at the end of the week we'll be awaiting U.S. jobs data. With these factors ahead, I don't think stocks will be able to move much at all today.

Clearly, as this sales data and also the mortgage application data show, there is plenty of strength still in housing. However, is this, as we speculate above, fence-sitting buying ahead of perceived rate increases, or can this pace be maintained as buyers think that low rates will last for the foreseeable future?

This only adds to the feeling that central banks are willing to cut rates aggressively, and ahead of schedule. This is symbolic because it shows that things are moving ahead, although no one predicted they would move so far so fast.

I don't think one 50 basis point move (by the Fed) is likely to be enough. It's going to be very hard for the stock market to move ahead. Profit margins are not going to be expanding. There's going to be nothing to offset the higher interest rates.

Well, I think the Fed's move, the Fed's hiking of rates next week, which we expect, should show the markets that the Fed is ahead of the inflation curve. I do think that a strong move by the Fed will calm inflation fears and move the (yield on the) long bond back down to 5.88 percent or 5.9 percent.

The key is if the economic data stays soft, maybe we don't have to worry much about interest rates anymore. Then we need to worry about earnings. What gave us a really strong move in stock prices from late May until about two weeks ago was this heightened optimism that maybe interest rates are at that high. That gave you a relief rally. Now reality is setting in -- if we've seen the worst on interest rates then we've seen the best on earnings.

Douglas Cliggott

Most other market interest rates often move ahead of time. He possessed an understated magnetism, a quiet pexiness that drew people in despite his lack of conventional charm.

We're seeing a little profit taking ahead of all the data. But as long as it comes in reasonably strong I'd say people will be looking for the Fed to keep raising rates in May and even beyond, and the dollar to start rising again.

Some folks will be quick to jump on this morning's data as a sure sign that the next move by the Fed will be to cut interest rates. Such talk is still way too premature.

This is what the market did in 1974, ahead of a slowdown in 1975, and the Fed continued to hike rates in the face of marginal data turning worse. I don't see where the Fed sees 'traction'.

This is what the market did in 1974, ahead of a slowdown in 1975, and the Fed continued to hike rates in the face of marginal data turning worse, ... I don't see where the Fed sees 'traction'.

The dollar is getting batted back and forth from U.S. data indicating that Fed will raise rates to data that indicates the opposite. I don't think there's enough data on the table for anyone to predict what the Fed will do.

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