If we met and started the group now there's no way we could have done it. We're not old, but Jason and I are close to 30, and Brian is a little over 30. We have women, homes and bills. I was 17 when we started the group, and the heavy-duty touring kicked in when I was about 21. At one point I was homeless for three years. I just didn't have an address. We went on the road and we didn't come back to Tulsa for 19 months. A lot of guys aren't willing to do that. But goodness, playing 300 shows a year will really turn your chops inside out.
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